Shame on all of you who resort to the bugged barb to beat the los necro.

nothing like an exploit, its using his ai against him. What he's done is positioned him in a corner, stand next to him and attacked at each side to make cages spawn then moved back. he has then trapped himself and the pally is free to foh over the cages to hit him while leaving the cages in tact.

so there is some "trick" to position him properly and defeat him easily? Why is that impressive? Seems more like an exploit.

Same with using tele on strike to stick the druid somewhere. Just using game mechanics to avoid the real challenge.

if this was as simple as trapping the boss behind his own cages so he can't move while you blast him would be a totally viable tactic.

finally, after observing his playstyle and mannerisms over the years, i'm confident that pious doesn't really give a fuck what you think of this

disagree.
The fact that monsters can move is a large part in what makes them challenging. Take Wyrms for example - their dragonflight is the core reason that makes them beat the snot out of many characters. If you can find a way to disable this ability through trickery, you have removed the balance from the game and negated the challenge.



Agreed. That is totally fair too. A lot of people play the game in a style that I think defeats the purpose of it (example, bringing in a high lvl character to distort the game balance and accomplish the task) and if that is what they want to do - coolio. I am merely stating that I for one am not impressed.

You can say that, but does that make things like curse immunity and absorb, dr and mdr, resists, defense, moving out of the way, exploiting? Saying X= strong, therein negating X = exploit is a statement with far too many holes to hold as an axiom.

Nope - not even close to being in the same ballpark.

Gearing your character in a way to overcome a challenge is playing within the confines of the game balance experience. You are still facing the challenge at 100% potency.

In this case, you are utilizing a trick to face the challenge at 20% potency.

Does that clarify my position for you?

so using spells like bonewall to trap a monster, total exploit.. I guess I understand your reasoning now.......

though i'd say you should take a more objective approach, rather than trying to assert your own playstyle.

Hopefully this was newly discovered and hasnt been the method of killing the los necro for a long time going unreported.

nobody is jealous of a strategy that you can click lock your mouse and go make some burgers on the bbq and come back to a dead los necro. to try and compare this 'use of mechanics' to any of the above examples such as casting bone prison ect is reidiculous. all those actions you mentioned were using mechanics as they were intended to be used, thats a big one.
Hopefully this was newly discovered and hasnt been the method of killing the los necro for a long time going unreported.

lol @ ignoring flamebellows and public anger at using intelligience to outsmart ai. clearly, invincibility is nowhere near what pious is doing.

dan: take that necro, haha.
zikur: you dirty bastard, pious
saphire: epic bugged barb screenshot of sc los
blue: you are exploiting bugs pious, i dont like you
leslie: i love you godmode
drithe: exploiting is wrong, but out-thinking ai is not exploiting
blue: if you don't let the enemy land every hit on you,you are exploiting bugs.

thats not what was explained 2 pages ago, and judging by the screens of it appears to be the way it was explained.

no one has actually noticed the reason that this is an exploit, in fact all of the reasoning i see so far is total garbage, and people being pissy because they don't like someone having their own strategy that doesn't involve standing in one spot mashing your 1 button and pounding juvs.. that being said:

if this was as simple as trapping the boss behind his own cages so he can't move while you blast him would be a totally viable tactic. what makes this an exploit is that the necro get's stuck in pathing mode, aka, does not pewpew with spells whilst he is trapped.

finally, after observing his playstyle and mannerisms over the years, i'm confident that pious doesn't really give a fuck what you think of this and only posted for the epiclols.. i doubt he equates any kind of pride to this achievement, especially considering that he's probably legit-killed every challenge in this mod, despite what naysayers may think.

@martel

in any fight you will not try to win at any means nessary come on .

Not me. Heck, I feel crappy using the Alma Negra on my hammerdin to pick up a few "super healers" before knocking down a boss because it so imbalances the fight. I play the game for the journey though, not just to complete a task.

Again, with that said I recognize that other people play this game to collect shiny objects and tick tasks off a checklist and many use every trick in the book to win the fight. That's fine. As someone who balances things around here though, that isn't the design I am going to push for and I have a feeling Soulmancer agrees. Whether or not the bonecages should be removed or left in the game to let noobs die over and over again in their attempts to replicate Pious's feat is ultimately up to Soulmancer though

i said theres other things in that pic that nobody has even mentioned.

@blue. just no. if you were a real player your first char at least wouldnt have skipped pretty much EVERY act boss. Also LOL at "Heck, I feel crappy using the Alma Negra on my hammerdin to pick up a few "super healers" before knocking down a boss because it so imbalances the fight."
If having things made easier for you pisses you off why have you accepted so many rushes etc. why have you skipped so many bosses and WHY, did you use your level 95 rabies druid to do the baal quest for your venger?
BOOOOOO! you have no say in what is fair and what aint im afraid. Especially after you turned to being noob rushed past every boss that poses a threat.

How did you find the nm baal quest challenging?
What about hell duriel, how did you keep him challenging while you sat in town?
etc. etc.
Its all good talking about that stuff but its kinda hollow when you yourself have taken much easier routes past much easier stuff

you did all that blue? sadface

feminists...

you did all that blue? sadface

I was tagging along with Lord_Soth's level 56 healer to finish up A2 with my lvl28 Rabies druid and letting his prayer pump me through the game.