Lee wrote:
You're not listening to anything I"m saying at all. Every melee has much more defensive gear than any caster, period...
Why are you talking about casters? This is a discussion on a melee skill. Compare it to blessed aim instead or something thats actually related to the subject.
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I killed Hell Andy without anyone tanking easily.
Good for you, so did my windy
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I was able to leech np with amp and only remember using juvs because of oak dying and what not.
Awesome! an extra 0.375% leech (after penaltys in hell) by giving it 10% at hard level 1 is hardly game breaking...
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They have the most OP vine in the game for trash so there is no need even for leech with carrion. It's like auto-juv.
Trash mobs... because thats what you need to be prepared for?
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Meph/Dia/Baal phys res was buffed higher than what it was in 1.21z this was discussed previously already.
and how exactly does that help the situation? Not only was feral murdered, phys res was increased for that added kick in the balls...
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We also discussed nerfing FERAL a long time ago. Where were you when discussions were being held and why didn't you speak up then?
I think you need to slow your brain for a min and remember who it was who kick started this patch and layed down the base for what you have. If that hadn't happened you might still be waiting for blue's patch.
To answer your question, I was busy with my own mod (as I told you I only had a short amount of time to work on this) and wasn't spending weeks watching over what was being done.
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What you're also forgetting is that FuryDruid is realistically the most powerful single target DPS melee in the game. They leech exponentially better than most other melee despite the so called zeal bug.
nobody is talking about a fury wolf
i'll say it again...
The problem I have is that the minimum was MURDERED. What it achieved was making all melee druids into cookie cutters. I don't even have a problem with the 20% max. For all I care, you could change it to 1% leech per 2 hard points, as long as its got decent functionality in the low levels too.
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Just walk around Hell with tomb reaver and a little leech... you can see it yourself.
Trash mobs again.
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Dia/Baal should not be doable by a melee anymore anyway.. Pious buffed IM enough to make sure it's granted you get raped if you get IMed.
Great! Everyone already builds mostly casters/ranged anyway, why change that?
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The problem is.. now that melee are balanced.. what are they being compared to? OP psn builds and fire druids?
You think melee are balanced compared to casters? They are not only in more direct danger, they are also reliant on another char to deal damage and are can be replaced by a decent recastable.
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I don't understand the logical balance in thinking around here on some people.
Well said
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What is it that is desired? More over powered melee rapage like 1.21z? And if anyone is comparing Melee to OP psn builds then you have some issues.
Not gonna happen with current CB values being around half of what they were before.
I played a melee pally in 1.21z and can tell you that their melee damage was vastly outclassed by pretty much everything (see barbs with eni + a1 merc). I made a melee pally and a healer pally that season. The healer could clear trash insanely fast and used to solo run azmo and belial. I never solo'd azmo and belial on my melee pally.
The only thing that was out of whack was crushing blow. Remember they have to contend with huge resistances (compared to other builds) more incoming damage AND enemy def + block...
Anyway, I digress, My problem is with feral rage being in need of a buff in the early levels, not with melee in general.
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On HC bens smiter actually struggled a bit with Hell Samhain but it looked doable. He got him to half hp. It was probably more balanced than anything. I actually died on my first high char because the battle was that much more intense.
Were not talking about smite, were talking about feral rage
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Previously we did it with a rabies psn druid and it was easy as hell so again I ask what is melee being compared to.
Whatever you are comparing it too. I was talking about 1 skill to begin with...
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