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 Post subject: "Treachery" runeword not casting blade shield
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:13 pm 

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Hey, I made the Treachery runeword and put it on my amazon.

Treachery
Level 43
3 Socket:
Body Armor
Shael
Thul
Lem
10% Chance to Cast Level 15 Venom when Striking
10% Chance to Cast Level 15 Blade Shield when Struck
+2 to Assassin Skill Levels
+50% Increased Attack Speed
+70% Faster Hit Recovery
+10% Increased Run/Walk Speed
Cold Resist +25%
100% Extra Gold from Monsters

Blade shield has never cast despite being hit many, many times. At 10% proc I should have seen it cast at least once.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:42 pm 
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The chance to cast valkyrie on the zon version doesn't work either.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:48 pm 
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Same with Albrecht's set, with the level 5 Howl.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:12 pm 

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Well that sure does suck, I built it almost entirely for the blade shield. Do the guys running this mod still update it sometimes? Is it fixable?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:41 pm 

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teprac wrote:
Well that sure does suck, I built it almost entirely for the blade shield. Do the guys running this mod still update it sometimes? Is it fixable?

It won't be fixed in the near future.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:31 am 
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Has anyone checked to make sure that the column in skills.txt (or is it missiles.txt) that makes these things able to be casted on hit/struck, etc?

It seems really odd that Howl won't proc. The others are somewhat understandable for the moment, as I have not looked at the text files...I can take a look when I get home in a few hours.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:48 am 
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I might have done the howl proc wrong - as that *should* be a skill that can be triggered. Really bummed that it doesn't work as that to me was a big part of the set's theme.

Blade shield may just be one of those things that can't be cast by a skill.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:46 pm 
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Edit: on Howl, you need a 1 in column EN in skills.txt. Tested to make sure.

Edit2: the skill functions (36, 10)noted above will make the proc happen at the monster who struck...this is bad. (These are used on things like nova in vanilla on Mav's set)

Edit3: Blue may be right that bladeshield will not proc on character. This skill is actually quite like 'geddon and hurricane in that it is time based, it moves with character, does not explicitly add damage...these are the ones I have not figured out either.

Removed irrelevant stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:12 pm 

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Well, I understand if it is a hardcoded engine feature. Perhaps replace the blade shield proc with some other worthwhile bonus, since the blade shield proc is a large part of the "value" of the runeword?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:22 pm 
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teprac wrote:
Well, I understand if it is a hardcoded engine feature. Perhaps replace the blade shield proc with some other worthwhile bonus, since the blade shield proc is a large part of the "value" of the runeword?


50ias, ctc venom, 70 fhr are far more appealing than the ctc a shitty skill. Blade shield brings no value to the rw imo. I've used it alot on non fanat zealers, like holy auradins. Its good on a frenzy barb for the ctc venom to. (good for trash).

I've used it quite alot on various builds and I never once missed the bladeshield. Since it consumes weapon dura and deals shitty damage i'd rather my weapon lasted longer between repairs, especialy in long areas like Wsk/Rof


The ctc valk has never worked on zon armour either.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:26 pm 
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DoD, does valk not proc at all, or does it quickly die once proc'd?

In vanilla they have a similar issue. If you don't have a hard skill point, the valk dies within a few seconds. Otherwise I think it worked fine.

And really, if these never worked, and never will work these attributes should be removed, and/or item sites should be updated. The long time HU crowd knows about these, but the newer folks expect them to work as stated. It is a let down when they don't, even if it's on a 'useless' skill.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:30 pm 
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nope it never procs at all. i tested with melee attacks, ranged attacks etc and never ever proc'd it in about 40 mins

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:42 pm 
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How about starting a list in this thread of items that have a "chance to cast" that don't work. In my opinion, most of the ctc effects should be removed anyways ;)

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Chance to Cast Rabies - pretty sure this one doesn't work.
Chance to Cast Valk
Chance to Cast Blade Shield

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Last I checked ctc chain light will not work, the animation works fine but the damage is not working. Im pretty sure i was bashing stuff in blood moor in norm and the chain light was doing nothing at all to mobs. it needs removed anyway as the damage is meaningless by the time you have an item with it and it only causes fps drops. same with frozen orb on chaos claws. remove f-orb as a ctc. it is terrible and just causes counters, even worse against a boss and the damage is LOL since its un synergised

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:29 pm 
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It is not enabled to proc in skills.txt. A simple 1 in column EN may solve the issue. It depends on differences btwn 1.10 and 1.12.

In the future, those folks that mess with skills procing REALLY need to make sure this column (and sometimes EO) are correctly filled out, and tested.

It took me a long time to figure out why a lot of skills would not proc in my own modded files. Ironically, I figured out the issue when I started playing HU and comparing its text files to vanilla.

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