muleofal wrote:
Riem821 wrote:
How the hell do you get a sorceress to 18k with nothing but BO? - Bo + Oak, but even 18k on a level 75 barb with just Bo is not very good, I think we had our barb sitting around 22-23k before Oak sage.
What kind of witchcraft is this. NM darkness isn't difficult to tank. The only baal minion that has a chance to kill somebody is lazarus. The rest are pushovers. - Again, prove to me that you did it without bladesins and I'll accept it, but to sit there and take glacial spike after glacial spike from darkness or Amon that do 15k life after 30+% cold absorb, weaken, and max resistances is tanking, not standing there and running around for a little while a bladesin demolishes him. None of those guys are pushovers at all if you're doing it legit.
Its possible to tank whoever is tanking the castle with max absorb. He still hits like a truck but with nothing but BO I could handle it, so a team with oak+BO and absorb would probably steamroll nightmare. - Max absorb doesn't save you from one shot kills and I'm sure there are things in the castle that can kill you one shot with a barb running 18k life.
Red. I don't really take anything of yours with any real truth to it because you guys were the first ones to abuse bladesins, and as far as I'm concerned you wouldn't have sniffed Hell if it weren't for that. Having MULTIPLE bladesins, not even just one, discredits anything you say.
First, every single one of our bladesins started with venom as their main source of damage. Then they realized something was wrong and Fury. Not a single one of them had claw mastery maxed.
Second, the HC crew made us look like fools by making posts saying weaken is terrible on the forum. We ran with decrepify because of that.
Third, my barb could tank the first 3 baal minions with ease. Without any absorb whatsoever. Defense and block go a long way.
Lazarus however is another matter entirely. Facetanking him is pure suicide and completely stupid. If you're getting hit by his spikes, you got serious issues. The best thing to do against him, and what we used to kill him, was me playing decoy and getting shot at while the rest of the team was shotting his back.
Fourth: I never said anything about act 4 bosses. After tanking meph, I told my team I needed to regear before progressing further but our bladesins wanted to push forward as much as possible before whatever was wrong with fury would get fixed. I didn't get to tank any boss in act 4. I got my gear done for ancients and I tanked those without too much trouble.
Fifth: There is nothing in castle that could oneshot my barb. Or my MA sin. That is a whole lot of assumptions you're making there mate.
And lastly: I didn't make a bladesin. I got stuck with my tank all ladder because that is what my team needed. I was the guy that stopped my teammates from getting killed by the boss. If I have to kite a boss to do that, I'll do it. If I have to act as a decoy, like I did with lazarus and summoner, I'll do it. If I have to facetank because the boss is impossible to kite, like glacia, I'll do it.
18k hp might not be very good to you HC guys, but I personally never made a character with that much HP before. It took me a whole lot of work to get there and you discrediting my efforts just for the sake of being a dick is pissing me off. I made 3 fucking barbarians trying to get a barb tanky enough to get through nightmare. I had an inventory full of hp charms by act4 normal. I crafted over 70 rings for my barb before getting what I wanted. I gold farmed, I crafted, I ran the cows to get a wirt set so I could get more for my buck. Nobody else in our softcore crew was willing to put as much time into gearing a barb as I was. If I hadn't gone tank, nobody would have done it. Fury or not, getting to hell was still a massive undertaking for our team.
Go to hell. I'm done arguing.
One last thing. Playing a bladesin and abusing a bladesin are two very different concepts.