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Author:  n0ga [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:46 am ]
Post subject:  conviction progression
Just wondering how it's progression works with hard/soft points. To really see if it would be worth maxing it in my vengeance pally over holly shield.
Author:  Verb [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
not really sure what the progression is but I've maxed so mine is around -51%, and if you're going vengence then you should max it. You're not gona do a lot of damage without it.
Author:  n0ga [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
thanks^^
Author:  Baerk [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
Last I checked the actual progression was 25% + hard level + (soft level/4)

So while not purely a hard point progression still gains quite a bit from maxing.
Author:  n0ga [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
so if i get it right its +1% pierce per hard point and 0,25 per soft point?

cuz from lvl5 (1 hard 4 soft) to lvl6 (2hard 4soft) I only get radius increased.

And pierce its 27% allready, wich would be 25 base +1 from hard point and another 1 from 4 soft.

If 1 hard point grants 1% pierce could it be a description issue? I noticed that some description dont show the progression propetly, i.e. they show wrong when uncliked but change to the right one right after adding the new lvl into it.

Edit: Just checked it and it's a description issue on progression. Just noticed that description says "pierce enemy fire resistance by: 1 point"
also cold and lightning then it says "resistances -28%" isn't that senseless?
Author:  PureRage-DoD [ Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
Convic gives the user 1% passive pierce per 2 hard points (works after immunity is broken).
(Was made like this to help vengeance)

The active side of it (the skill pierce) gains 1 per hard and 1 per 4 levels.
4 hard points = -5% enemy res (4 from hard points +1 from 4 soft levels)

Hard points gains cannot be shown on the "Next Level" bit as it displays the bonus you will get at the next soft level only.

For a hard point gains skill, whatever it says for "Next Level" take that and add the hard point bonus per point. That will be your next level with a hard point.
Author:  quikk [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
what are 'hard / soft' points ??

im getting the impression its either: one is points that come from +skill items and the other are points you put in...so you dont get as big a bonus from +skills?! wtf

orrr: one is the first 20 points, and one is the lvl 20-40 points ??
Author:  Verb [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
hard points is points that you put in to the skill when you lvl up. Soft points are +skill and stuff that you get from gear and charms
Author:  n0ga [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
quikk wrote:
what are 'hard / soft' points ??

im getting the impression one is points that come from +skill items and the other are points you put in...so you dont get as big a bonus from +skills?! wtf


hard points those spent by u on ur skill tab soft are those who come from items. Some skills dont preogress the some way with soft points than hard points ,other do it the same way as with hard points, and some other skills only progress with hard points. That's why I asked. :)

edit: posted allmost at same time with verb xD
Author:  quikk [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
what the hell?! man this is information i couldve used LOL

i suppose based on the content of this thread that theres nowhere on the website which will illustrate the difference one can expect from these things..

this changes eevvverrryythinngggg!!!

this is only in HU, correct?

i havent played regular d2x in about 10 years..
Author:  slappyNuts [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conviction progression
Shantu put together a skill spreadsheet some years ago.. would be fuckin sweet to have an updated one... Thing is the skills get modified every patch so someone would need to be keeping it up to date
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