In an effort to balance the last 3 act bosses in the last difficulty in the game, the other 5/6th's of the game have been turned into a mess. GG everybody always wanted to get to hell tundra to farm faster anyway.

In an effort to balance the last 3 act bosses in the last difficulty in the game, the other 5/6th's of the game have been turned into a mess. GG everybody always wanted to get to hell tundra to farm faster anyway.

I can't wait till this shit is released and everyone starts yelling and screaming again. It really brought these dead forums to life.

Face it, no one has Soulmancer's touch. He kept everyone reasonably happy. He didn't make it too hard or too easy. He balanced the majority of skills and classes.

The game itself has lost all appeal to me, but all of a sudden these forums are extremely entertaining. I can't wait for the next flame war, how about you?

98% amp was impossible in 1.21z. the average amp (1 pointed) was 79-82%. it required level 60 for 90% previously

135% res diab in hell had in 1.21z with 80% amp he would be dropped to 55% (same as the current values will be dropping him too.

1.21z values are here
Just add 55% to the phys resists to get their actual values

The math isnt hard really. Boss resist charm was dropped 20% from 1.21z
Avg amp value is 20% lower than 1.21z
= same as 1.21z
Why all this work to get the same outcome when you could just have fully reinstated amp to the 1.21z values instead of reducing everything sneakily in the hopes nobody would notice?

If the boss charms have been dropped by 20%, then norm and NM bosses also have 20% less resists so using decrep in norm and NM and most of hell is a no brainer + it makes the bosses deal less damage to the entire team. zzzzz

IMO, revert the charms to 1.21z, revert monstats resists to 1.21z and revert amp to 1.21z. At least you couldnt get away with super slow + weakening hell bosses while dealing crushing blows in 1.21z... This whole thing is being made way more complicated than it needs to be. Complicated solutions often yield a bad outcome.

Edit: wrong topic ffs

I kind of agree, but IMO, just make bosses curse-immune and set them at a static PI that will not change.

Not a great time to be discussing such big changes.. atm we just need a balanced patch to be put out. I posted the values.. the last 3 bosses in Hell need adjusted and it should be pretty balanced.

Whats wrong with discussion? Discussion leads to solutions. And no your values are still askewed Lee. Your on the right track i suppose but again balancing around Amp/Decrep will always yield varying results.

I guess I'm confused as to where that passion to balance went. You displayed it when you came to the conclusion that fury druids could be game breakers. It seems that any discussion that isn't something you've initiated you don't want any part of. As proof here.

I suggested the curse immunity 3 days ago and all I got was that it would take too much time. Yet here we wait for hi-res to be solved which is a cosmetic change at best. (The AI range will be abusable so it adds no challenge)

You obviously don't have the real time game experience or knowledge here to understand what is going on. Your ranting posts have done nothing but lead to pointless arguing.

There is nothing wrong with discussion but discussion has been going on a long time and a simple solution hasn't been reached yet and you want to propose complicated solutions? You're just wasting more and more time instead of helping fix the problem in simplicity. My values were correct and askewed isn't a word.

Again balancing around amp/dec is how it's being done right now and it will stay that way. Suggesting over dramatic changes to fix something simple is idiotic. This isn't going to become a circus patch because you can't be satisfied with simply adjusting amp/dec because you feel the game shouldn't be balanced around that anyway. Of course.. your feelings as to why it shouldn't be balanced that way are probably insignificant anyway.

Balancing around amp is how it should stay. Allowing more soloing for a melee/phys class is beyond stupidity. Already the most powerful class in the game in combination of damage and defensive ability.

Again as far as 'passion' for balancing I guess my 100+ posts haven't said a thing have they? My concern was with the entire melee/phys class. I've made over a 100 posts thus far trying to help balance things here and you got some nerve to try to assert 'passion' here? Where's your passion?

All I'm saying is it's a bad time to propose something that requires so much testing and correction to make accurate when currently under the simple system of things balance hasn't been reached yet. How can you not agree with that? It's better to just fix the melee/phys issue and just reset the patch. This on going discussion is going no where if it's leading into a whole different system of trying to balance things.

Maybe something for another time but for now the last 3 bosses in hell need the most adjusting.

Make the god damn patch. Who cares about bosses. If all the classes can finish hell w/o a party is perfect.

...What?

He said make the god damn patch yo! Shiiiiit thought u recognized.