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blinky99
 Post subject: no modding for D3, no HU version of D3?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:02 pm 

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seems they dont want people modding it from diabloII.net site
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 Post subject: Re: no modding for D3, no HU version of D3?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Yeah that's the word; and why Terry isn't doing a D3 but doing a Torchlight 2 mod. Or well UO or well who knows he seems to keep changing his mind(very indecisive bugger).

He explains it all up a couple forums.
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 Post subject: Re: no modding for D3, no HU version of D3?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:34 pm 

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thought he said he was doing a D3 , but now that seems impossible from what blizzard said to mod D3
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:37 pm 

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Could be one of those things they say is impossible, but people have figured out how to do it before the game is even officially released. Saying that is like saying your ship is unsinkable. You're just begging a giant iceberg to ruin your day.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:09 pm 
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D3 has auction house it ruined my day.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:16 pm 
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D3 has auction house it ruined my day.


eh, not me. It takes the whole botting for gear, d2jsp and third-party sites out of the equation i think. That should help keep the community more honest, at least for a bit
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:17 pm 
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Don't know about eliminating botting but it will definitely crush the need for 3rd party sites.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:27 pm 

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AH is fine. Real money AH? Not a chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:07 pm 
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It won't stop botting in the least. When it's possible it will be done.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:28 pm 
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Hell Unleashed 2 is very unlikely at this point. Honestly; fuck Blizzard. I have respected and support them but this latest news is a load of rubbish.

No offline mode at all now; you have to connect to battle.net to play; even single player.
Mods are now considered prohibited where as before they were not supported.
Real cash auction House?

Now, hell with it. it's not worth it. Until private servers come out for Diablo 3 I'm probably not even going to bother it. Torchlight 2 looks far more appealing and much less of a pain in the ass. Plus it's developers and community are actually friendly and supportive of one another. Where as the Diablo community is pretty much tearing it self apart due to all the fucktarded decisions Blizzard has been making just so they can make an extra buck off the game.

I am curious what Phrozen Keep intends to do; as they have supported Blizzard's policy in the past, but with this latest news I'm pretty sure they just turned a talented ally into an enemy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:32 pm 
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Soulmancer wrote:
Torchlight 2 looks far more appealing and much less of a pain in the ass.

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I am curious what Phrozen Keep intends to do; as they have supported Blizzard's policy in the past, but with this latest news I'm pretty sure they just turned a talented ally into an enemy.


Im guessing down the line an option to install custom mods, however without a $$$ auction house.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:00 pm 

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Soulmancer wrote:
I am curious what Phrozen Keep intends to do; as they have supported Blizzard's policy in the past, but with this latest news I'm pretty sure they just turned a talented ally into an enemy.


If I had to guess? Openly appear to support Blizzard, really develop a way to mod the fuck out of the game. It's what they did with private servers after all.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:35 pm 

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That's disappointing nes from Blizzard but that won't stop the majority of people converting to D3 I believe. This place has a year+ left. HU had a good run though. How long has this mod been around? I believe it's been around for 8+ years? That's pretty damn good.

I wouldn't be too surprised if many people stay on D2 though.. such as those who don't really have newer comps or care for the 3d aspect of d3.

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 Post subject: Re: no modding for D3, no HU version of D3?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:29 am 
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tbh, i believe each diablo player want D3... in some point even when it sucks bad as it is just like wow. Most of people will bother on it... a good percent will come back and some others weak-minded will stay oon D3 and forget about D2. its how the things goes, i believe we all want to try it, most of the good Diablo fans or the real fans just dont like D3 and still want to try it. Im sure HU will sbe alive for much more time after D3 release.

But for that, dev team should try some moore stuff and new, and not just readjusting the preexisting stuff or adding endgame stuff. Add more enviromental stuff, alternate paths to further areas, more bosses and minibosses with special drops on each act, etc. there so much that can be done for this mod and many people to help that need to be listened, i wich i had the knowledge enough to work some stuff at home and then show to the community to see if they agree and want to copy the idea etc. but modding is not my skill.

we shoulndt be scared of the D3 menace... we will try it... but soon we will come back and have some real fun in our beloved HU.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:20 am 

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Just take the models from Titan Quest and port em over to torchlight and you will have a game more graphically advanced than D3 lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:45 am 

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Speaking of which, I'm surprised Soulmancer isn't interested in modding Titan Quest.

But Blizzard really killed D3 with the whole real money announcement. Great, so it will be a clusterfuck like D2, except immediately, and you can't avoid it by playing single player/making a mod/etc? Good game.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:53 am 

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yeah the ah really destroys the game play of D3....oh wait

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:16 am 

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I knew this would happen from the start! Blizzard is all about money... AH announcement just sums it up really

Back to bots and whatever new over op build they have replaced hammerdin with..

Stuff like AH is just fucking annoying. People will stop thinking of actually PLAYING the new ''exciting'' diablo 3 and just think 'I could have jobzz from sellin itamzz'

Ah well... to be expected from blizzard

And single player on battle.net is the most retarded thing ive ever heard in my life.

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They basically told the Chinese gold farmers to go ahead.... except they want a cut this time.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:38 am 
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Man this will ruin the hole shit :\

Dont need to play anymore, can just be rich and buy all the shit you want..
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:23 pm 
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D3 will be moddable (as d2 was never supposed to be moddable) but just look what happened to that. Blizz never released official tools or anything, people just made them and released it all for public use.

It won't happen for a while though so i'll wait and buy it when its £2.50 in the bargain bucket, after blizz drive away the majority of the existing fanbase so they can cater to 9-10 year olds, and daddys credit card... By that time, someone will have cracked the game and created realm emulation software most likely.

Hell i might not even pay £2.50 after the way blizz are handling it and just pirate it.
Blizz have squeezed the price of 3-4 sets of D2 disks out of me over the years. The only reason that happened was because of mods. The old modding crowd should be saluted by blizzard for keeping this game alive for so long. Won't happen though, as they assume its because of the shit heap that was the original game.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:02 pm 

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Unlike SC2 Pirating might be a real problem because of no offline mode.


Also... on modding.

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Q: Will Diablo III include support for bots and/or mods?

A: No, for a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they'll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game.


Modding means they think they lose money, thus will be going after your paychecks if they find you doing it publicly.
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Modding means they think they lose money, thus will be going after your paychecks if they find you doing it publicly.


Not really an issue for those of us who work in cash only ;)
The only thing I have a bank account for is for the overdraft (thats been maxed out since I was in college).

Also, not every country is bound by laws like that. You can run a private server in Germany legally atm while it's still illegal elsewhare.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:15 pm 

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I am pretty sure I was talking about a public mod like HU. Unless you mean something else I don't understand.

Really needs to be an anti-Blizzard grass roots campaign. They don't deserve the hype they get anymore. I have grown to hate Blizzard with a passion.
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Thats a huge fanbase they are pretty much giving the middle finger too with D3. At least 50% of D2's player base will enjoy playing mods more then the regular game. Only the top 8-9 have a realm in the main list, and half of the small list at the end have realm support too. All are public realms, i'm pretty sure if someone did mod D3 and had the ability to emulate a realm, it could be hosted in Germany at the very least completely legally.

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I'm madder about the no offline thing more than the auction house.

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I'd have quit D2 around 2003 if it weren't for the modding scene and never looked back. Now they're saying not only will that not exist but the game will be ruined by item sellers from day 1? Pirates for the fucking win.
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I understand that people are pissed that there isnt any modding in D3 but the shear amount of shit you're giving the game for having a auction house is fucking hilarious. Because its not like item selling existed in d2....oh wait!
I dont know about you but when I started this mod people basicly threw items at me where ever I was, and I've been trying to do the same now that I've got items myself but it didnt ruin shit for me.
It sounds like you're just pissed that blizzard is actually trying to make money of D3, wich is understandable since I doubt any gaming company tries to make a game without thinking about profit.
Also it really sounds like you all feel forced to use this auction house just because it exists. There's gona be trading like in d2 in d3 aswell.

If you dont want to play D3 because you think the gameplay would be boring then I'd understand but this is just ridiculous. I'll be happy if you guys arent among the D3 community if you're not gona play it only becuase of the AH and without modding capability.

EDIT: it kinda shows that you all are just item horny loot whores who dont give a shit about the story or the game play and only play the game for the items.

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As I said I was more upset about the no offline thing. I don't always have internet where I'm at so playing would then be difficult for me. The trading system is going to be the auction house. They have a $$$ one and an In game gold one. That you would even use on single player.

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I understand that people are pissed that there isnt any modding in D3 but the shear amount of shit you're giving the game for having a auction house is fucking hilarious. Because its not like item selling existed in d2....oh wait!


The gold AH is fine, it's the real money one that's the problem. And yes, there were people selling items for real money in D2. It ruined the game. Now there are far more that will do it, right from day 1 whereas D2 had a while before it became a complete clusterfuck.

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I dont know about you but when I started this mod people basicly threw items at me where ever I was, and I've been trying to do the same now that I've got items myself but it didnt ruin shit for me.


Big difference between giving items away (a sign of a generous, giving community) and selling them for real money (which encourages the exact opposite behavior).

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Of course businesses are in it to make money. As the system is now, Blizzard profits by allowing botters, dupers, and gold farmers to do their thing. If you don't see the problem with this you're blind.

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Also it really sounds like you all feel forced to use this auction house just because it exists. There's gona be trading like in d2 in d3 aswell.


All of the good items will only sell for real money, so yes you will. If D2 style trading still did exist it would not be used much both because it is vastly inferior to an AH and because D2 trading was a clusterfuck as well.

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Blah blah blah demons blah blah blah corrupting now go kill mobs for the phat lewts. Lol story. When you make an item focused game and then draw further attention to items... you attract people that only care about items. Bitching about that is far more absurd than bitching about the real money trading or the lack of modding any day of the week. And gameplay? Let's be honest here - spamming the same skill repeatedly, or using a timered skill and a spammable skill in between, with a buff or two to mix it up is not compelling, in depth gameplay. It's the items that keep it interesting, otherwise it'd be pretty damn mindless. HU improves on this a lot, but it is still constrained by the D2 framework, so there is only so much that can be done. That and no modding D3 means no mods to fix this or any other problems.
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you got some valid points but if there was no ah for real money then it would be exactly the same as d2 where they sell items from third party sites and shit.

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If they have a way to pull actual cash out of the game, the game will be hacked and cheats will be created. The interesting thing is that these cheats/hacks will be pretty carefully distributed for a while as everyone will want to cash in and keep the hacks for themselves.

In the long run though, having the code on the diablo servers won't be enough and the game will get cracked wide open. At which point underground mods will start to surface.

Apple's IOS 5 (new operating system for ipones, etc) has already been cracked by hackers and it hasn't even been released yet. Does Blizzard really believe they can do better?

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People start hacking in earnest when it becomes less painful than doing things 'the right way'. The more evasive DRMs have become, the more hacking of those games there has been. Since blizz is continuing down the path of 'online play or piss off', you can bet that it will be cracked asap.

The makers of Torchlight (we know they are, right) took the completely opposite view. Mod to heart's content, release them, hell, we'll even help out on showing ya how it can be done...for the scope of TL, it has been madly successful in my view.

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Blizzard made a lot of money of the botting duping etc done in D2, by banning CD-Keys alone. I've had to buy about 10 Battle chests over my D2 career for CD-Keys alone.

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because you were botting and duping and cheating? serves you right
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you got some valid points but if there was no ah for real money then it would be exactly the same as d2 where they sell items from third party sites and shit.


Yes. And as terrible as that was it would actually be an improvement because only a few groups of people were selling items instead of everyone and it took a while for D2 to get to that state whereas D3 will have it officially sanctioned from day 1.

Not to mention the clear difference in design motivations:

D2: Blizzard profits by banning those undertaking illicit activities, so they have to buy more cd keys to continue on. And they will, because it's a cost of business for them but Blizzard profits by doing their job.
D3: Blizzard profits on every sale. Gold farmers = more sales. Botters = more sales. Dupers = more sales. Blizzard profits by doing nothing (not doing their job) and allowing them to continue, or perhaps even officially sanctioning the latter two as they have the first.
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I didn't say I felt bad about it either. I ran several Baal Bots and still run Several Baal Bots for my D2JSP Guild to use to level characters. I never duped though I knew several of the past methods. CD-Keys were about 5 bucks a set last ladder.

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I didn't say I felt bad about it either. I ran several Baal Bots and still run Several Baal Bots for my D2JSP Guild to use to level characters. I never duped though I knew several of the past methods. CD-Keys were about 5 bucks a set last ladder.


Same happened to me all the time. I always ran 3+ bots at any given time. On average i lost about 3-4 cd keys per ladder from banning. But thats the price of non-stop loot. And if your trading fg for keys your not actually losing money. D2 is a self-perpetuating machine D2. And the hundreds of thousands of keys blizz sells at bulk are the grease that keep it running. Only by banning do they keep selling those keys at such great numbers. Blizz can say what they want, but hacking/modding is what keeps the Diablo franchise going. Always has, always will
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PPL wouldn't bot if drop chances were ok. It was nearly impossible to get 2hrs on a single ladder(18months, now 6) or good melee gear without trade from boters or boting. That's why I played at most 3 months every major patch - 1.09, 1.10, 1.11... D2 and every blizz games past W2/SC are overhyped, lack of content, no balance, same ideas over and over, graphics outdated by 2 years on the release day.
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Game/Steel: Both true. Which is why shifting from a model in which Blizzard is encouraged to stop exploitation to one that pays them to not act is going to lead to a clusterfuck.
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Running 5-6 Bots 3 Baal Only 3 Full Runs I found about 3-4 HRS a Night along with countless other items. My bots have crafted probably the top 3 DS Helms on USEast Ladder. You can say all you want about Blizz but they WANT people to bot and they WANT people to get caught so they can make more $$$. If you know anything about importing of items you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. There is so much that Blizz profits off of.

On another note. JSP has led me to getting more TV's for FG that I paid nothing for than any other site. So Paul for this I salute you.

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Running 5-6 Bots 3 Baal Only 3 Full Runs I found about 3-4 HRS a Night along with countless other items. My bots have crafted probably the top 3 DS Helms on USEast Ladder. You can say all you want about Blizz but they WANT people to bot and they WANT people to get caught so they can make more $$$. If you know anything about importing of items you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. There is so much that Blizz profits off of.

On another note. JSP has led me to getting more TV's for FG that I paid nothing for than any other site. So Paul for this I salute you.



USWest here. But thats exactly right. Blizz lives what has happened to D2 and botting. And yes, RL trades is where its at :D
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With your creative talent, perseverance, and a strong community backing, you guys could probably make an indie game similar to Diablo and torchlight....

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Hell Unleashed 2 is very unlikely at this point. Honestly; fuck Blizzard. I have respected and support them but this latest news is a load of rubbish.



With your creative talent, perseverance, and a strong community backing, you guys could probably make an indie game similar to Diablo and torchlight....

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Sounds like torchlight might be doing this. They might be taking valve's direction and release the engine for modification and new games. We could really use another game with the PvP system and skills level system of UO.
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USWest here. But thats exactly right. Blizz lives what has happened to D2 and botting. And yes, RL trades is where its at :D



One helm for a New 50" TV :lol: some people on JSP need a life.

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Bloodcraft helms people love them for GM Melee.

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all i know is i found one legit Ber rune in my 6 years+ of playing d2 with i cant even count how many hours, thats absurd IMO
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The most recent patch notched up rune drops.

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all i know is i found one legit Ber rune in my 6 years+ of playing d2 with i cant even count how many hours, thats absurd IMO


This is what happens when you create fake difficulty with shitty drops. Bots for the win. :/
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just in case anyone is interested
check out leaked screen shots of d3!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments ... rom_china/

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