- The Sin use Zeal/Dclaw vs Boss is one character, i tested with Zeal and Dclaw. Zeal can tank Tobias in a acceptable way (consume 10-16 poiton), Dclaw die soon, leech is not enough because too slow
- In late period, clearly that Fury will stronger than Zealer , but Zeal stronger in early - medium, he will get more level/item ... Ok with kramuti that Zeal is more easily, "noob" will choose this build, not Fury
- In my server there is a guy, the best guy, he choose Vegen (for trash) combine Zeal (for boss), and he is top pro player )) so many guys want to become him, and the result is mass of zeal/vengen . BTW Grisworld is very good (not use boot and glove)
==> Mrawskrad, you can dont neft Zeal or buff Fury, but dont let Dclaw not change, Ass with Dclaw as main skill is more bad than any melee char (may better than Bear with fire/cold claw), people will use Zeal instead

Korlic has something buggy, wiped a 7k life sin (at full life) with 45% dr, and 230+ all resistances. Looked like I died from being close to him. Not sure, but nothing should be doing that much damage. Wondering if it's due to something with FE. maybe that should be looked into or removed, it seems to have been a bug in patches past.

And now my watch has ended. God damnit, dying to something out of control and not intended like that is infuriating.

Just because everyone on your server is jumping on the zeal/veng bandwagon doesn't make the other builds bad. Fclaw has been my main champ for every patch since 1.3 and it solos LoS pali, sorc, barb, and amazon on hardcore. Maybe instead of everyone trying to copy the good players, they should be creative and figure out how to make an unpopular build work



Last I saw korlic was leaping around at my golem... can some sc peeps test this please? That sin was beefy as fuck and she just popped.

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Yeah its FE ES korlic. Bugged 1 shots.

I still don't see why dclaw is considered bad. Its strong. It has always been strong. Clawblock is the #1 most OP thing in the entire game. Zealer might be FotM, but that doesn't make dclaw bad. This is a serious case of learn to play.

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- ok, so Dclawsin is bad because not enough gear, as i said, with same character, Dclawsin can not tank with tobias (clawblock ~47%), her gear is Natalya set, dracula and mara amulet, ring is dangoon => .. after that, switched to Zeal, and she killed him. When vs other sub boss, i see use Zeal is faster and more leech. In farming, use Vengen from shield Revenge is faster (combine Dragon flight)
- hmm i missed something bro ?
- there is 4-5 guy tried and abadoned Dclaw in my server, include me... so we are totally noobs
All my case is in 1.6c

you realize you're posting in 1.8 feedback thread???

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yes, but i told before, i plảyed 1.6a-b-c, a bit on 1.7, and test skill for 1.9
hoping 1.9 will more balance, when Mrawskrad release 1.9 i will call my friend play it, now we play 1.6c

Let's fix it, don't care how but let's get it done.

The easiest thing to do would just be disable FE and be done with buggy as shit FE once and for all.

You can't give me feedback based on 1.6c man.....1.8 is totally different

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I really like the new on death FE fire thing, but I think we can find another way to work that in. I'd prefer to just wipe it so we aren't plagued with having to cheese ancients or worry about buggy 1-shots

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Yeah I feel the same way. The on death is cool but the whole modifier has so many bugs it seems. With ES and even with LE again, i have noticed. Sometimes it instantly 1 shots chars even with the new on death effect the way it used to. It's so damn buggy.

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- Phoenix strike problem, i can not do 3 charge when finish, only 1
and will Sin surrive with Chargeup skill ?
- 2H weapon build ? how they can surrive ?

rofl...

wof doesnt req 2 levels to skill

waiting for 1.9...

waiting for people to finish 1.8

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You deleted link ? Can you show me what changelogs in this update, i downloaded it

HC players have been having their toons get 1 shotted by ancients when they spawn with extra strong and fire enchant. Even with good resists, sorbs, and huge health bubbles, SPLAT.

Maybe consider a hotfix for this issue so HC players don't have to wait until next season to enjoy the game?

I think all 1.9 needs is to remove WW from mobs, make trash mob immunities possible to break with high lvl amp/conv/LR, and most importantly make Trap Sins great again. I don't think any spells in the game do less damage, or dps, or cause more triggers than Traps, and they have poop range with poop duration. Inferno trap needs to be removed and replaced, since the damage is not good anyway and it causes the game to freak out and instantly kill you with 200 triggers. If you remove the triggers off it then it will be too OP to just stack them on a boss and run around in circles. Make a Meteor Trap or something else that can be good for bosses and doesn't get you killed.

1.8 is done

Server is empty. Waitning for 1.9 to get back into HU.

Any updates?

Okay, I feel it's about high time I put in my two cents for this patch. Before I begin though, I would like to say that I like this patch in many respects, and the things it did right far outweigh the things it did wrong.

Pros:
1. The removal of most synergies was a good idea. I hope future patches use a similar model.
2. The bosses are challenging enough, but still doable for HC players like myself. I think this is the first HU patch in a long time where the bosses were in the proverbial "Goldie Locks" zone. Not too hard. Not too easy. Juuuuuust right.
3. The exp scaling also felt more like HU as opposed to last patch. Good job on bringing it back home.
4. I like the way Barbs have been given a single weapon mastery that applies to all weapons. Keep this idea in future patches please.
5. I really like the way the drop rate for high runes has been boosted. Keep this please.


Cons:
1. Prayer palas have been rendered obsolete because the a2 merc has a better prayer than he does and the auras won't stack anymore. Also Holy bolt doesn't heal enough.
2. Zealots/Chargers don't hit hard enough and don't leech enough life. There is very little good weaponry available to make melee pallys viable from about level 45-70 you'll likely be stuck using the same eth runeword loyalty naga because there is nothing in the unique or set arsenal to replace it until mid to late 70s. Melee pallys, and this is especially true for chargers, needs to hit HARD to compensate for the fact that they do not hit multiple enemies simultaneously like casters and other classes do.
3. The dps on Hurricane blows goats. I had a level 90 tornado druid and his hurricane barely did any damage at all to the mobs in Hell. Consider boosting dps by maybe 20-40% then it might actually be a skill worth having due to it's tiny radius.
4. That same druid got easily roasted by normal Diablo, despite spamming a level 38 cyclone armor during the fight. Cyclone armor either doesn't absorb enough damage, or maybe consider adding some lightning, fire and Ice sorb while active to make it do what it it supposed to do more efficiently. The boosting defense property was also a good idea and I hope that stays in next patch.
5. Rares and crafts both suck. They need to be boosted in power significantly.
6. Multi-shot/Guided arrow got nerfed too hard.
7. Wake of fire is OP af.
8. For the love of God, someone please fix that fucking extra strong fire enchanted glitch with the ancients. Levels 90s+ getting 1 shot in a5 nightmare on hc is no good.
I for one actually thought the whirlwinding mobs were a nice addition, but perhaps not quite so many, eh?