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 Post subject: All the gear on my necro disappeared.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:46 am 

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 Post subject: Re: All the gear on my necro disappeared.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:02 am 

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The only issue that could have happened was if you had a memory or infinity RW. I know your nec was only like level 30? Did you update correctly? Also, PureRage's server isn't updated yet


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:17 am 

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ye, my necro was 40, didn't have any of those on him, all other chars seem to be ok...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:18 am 

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I downloaded your dropbox d2se direct play thing and then replaced the d2mpq file.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:19 am 
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did you have runes that were socketed into any items? If you did, and the stat on them changed, this may happen.

Or if you were wearing a set that had it's fullset bonuses changed might.

This is conjecture, but these are the other cases i can think of off the top of my head.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:28 am 
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Does your gear dissapeared on PureRage server ? If so, what's your login name and char name so I can download a backup in case I have to rollback your char ...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:32 am 
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Well I guess your charname was "nature" and the latest backup I have is 6 minutes ago so I guess it's too late if your char doesnt work on an updated server. Otherwise I can try yesterday's backup but you will rollback for 1 day.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:35 am 

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If your stuff is all gone I can help you out mate. You are probably the only one this happened to. :P


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:40 am 
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My server is updated. Lost gear is from picking up an item that gets equipped while you are trying to get your body then getting killed as you are heading there. The game classes the corpse with that white item/whatever on as our real corpse, so when you rejoin, that's the corpse the game puts in town.

2 ways to avoid it:
1: Rejoin when you die, without trying to run for your corpse.
2: use /nopickup so you don't accidentally pick up random crap while trying to get your body.

It's nothing to do with bad item data. That would cause bad data, not poofed items.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:45 am 
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True. I was guessing the guy updated his game to 1.6b and joined an existing game on your server while still running 1.6a. Thinking twice I don't think an update can do this shit, the game should have crashed otherwise.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:45 am 
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If more than one corpse, the way to know which corpse is still the one with the most gold value, correct?

If he just had one, then he would at least have the mistakenly picked up item.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:56 am 
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The one with the most gold next to it you mean? The game can't distinguish what corpse is what. It simply saves the last corpse that had any gear equipped.

You're right though he should have the item that was equipped while he was running for his corpse, or even some of his gear if he was using str bug and clicked the body once. He would have picked up only the items he had enough base strength for, the rest would be left behind on the corpse still. If he then died > rejoined, then the gear on the original corpse would be gone, but the gear he did manage to pick up would be on the character/corpse.

We don't know what happened exactly though as the only information given was "..." (Super useful). The only other way to poof gear is to break your savefile while trying to dupe.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:00 am 
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In vanilla at least this is how multicorpses worked.

You die. (the gold value of your gear was 10,000 gold)
You run, and pick up a wand worth 20,000 gold.
You die.
You exit.

The corpse you pick up in town is the later one because it was worth more gold value.

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If your character has no corpse when he dies, one will be created, and your equipped items will remain on that corpse. If your character already has a corpse, another corpse (up to a maximum of 16) will be created and your most recently equipped items will remain with the new corpse. Be careful about equipping valuable equipment when you already have a corpse out in the field, if you exit a realm game with more than one corpse on the ground, only the corpse having the most valuable equipment (gold equivalent value) will be saved. Also, if you die and you already have 16 corpses, your items will fall to the ground, and anyone can take them. Unequipped items, however, will always remain in your inventory.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:00 am 
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Ah yeh my bad! That's what happens when you only check for 1 possible result. I'd checked it out in the past by killing a level 1 char with the starter gear equipped (all worth 1 gold), equipping it with a wand (cost more than starter barb hat +2 axes was worth) and killing it again > rejoin. I get the wand.

I should have checked other possibilities and tried to refute my result instead of accepting the first hypothesis. :D
And now I see the code behind that function in the .dll :)
It's never been something I really looked into deeply as I'm HC onry when I do play so I never stumble into any issues with multiple corpses.

With that in mind, we still don't know if it was just some of the gear (did half the gear survive?) or if it was just certain items. It would help if we knew exactly what happened beforehand and exactly what items vanished. If it was mostly rares, then it might be related to the affix changes that were made. I just noticed the discussion about craft req levels in the other thread, and didn't realize affixes were changed mid patch :o

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:11 am 

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That's hilarious, didn't know it worked exactly that way. I just remember old days of vanilla dropping gear on people's corpses so they pick up items and die again :P

Rage - 3 weeks isn't really mid-patch ^^


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:55 am 
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Ensley03 wrote:
That's hilarious, didn't know it worked exactly that way. I just remember old days of vanilla dropping gear on people's corpses so they pick up items and die again :P

Rage - 3 weeks isn't really mid-patch ^^


It began, it has not ended. therefore it is in the middle.

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kramuti wrote:
Ensley03 wrote:
That's hilarious, didn't know it worked exactly that way. I just remember old days of vanilla dropping gear on people's corpses so they pick up items and die again :P

Rage - 3 weeks isn't really mid-patch ^^


It began, it has not ended. therefore it is in the middle.


So a newborn baby is in the middle of his life? :P


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Ensley03 wrote:
kramuti wrote:
Ensley03 wrote:
That's hilarious, didn't know it worked exactly that way. I just remember old days of vanilla dropping gear on people's corpses so they pick up items and die again :P

Rage - 3 weeks isn't really mid-patch ^^


It began, it has not ended. therefore it is in the middle.


So a newborn baby is in the middle of his life? :P


I mean as sad as it sounds possibly?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:59 am 
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START|<-----------MIDDLE------------->|END

Everything between the start and end is in the middle. Even if you can't see the end, if you have started something prior and haven't reached the end, you are in the middle.

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I disagree, middle = 50%. :D


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:38 am 
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If you are 25% of the way through a journey are you at the start, end, or in the middle of those? The middle is the space between the start and the end. Mid patch = without a fresh start. :P

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