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 Post subject: Re: HU Universal Custom Char Screen Proposal
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:04 pm 
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easily tells more about the char than most people would be bothered to say about their chars usually.


This is the main reason i made the original.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:08 pm 
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Have you used PureRage's fixed strings - 1.3a missing uniqs names, change pot names, etc.?
Hm. Could you add also FHR stat?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Considering in game gold piles display as a number with just a capital G probably yes to the fixed strings. pots also display as HP and MP with rejuvs being in purple.

I avoided adding any increased speeds because there's the possibility of bug reports arising (since the display can't tell the difference between effective increased speeds of skills and gear increased speeds) should the character get hit with a strong slow curse.

If there was some stat I could refer to that would allow it to display the current animation length or make it always display just the effective increased speeds (which includes what remains of gear increased speeds after it goes through the diminishing returns formula to become effective increased speeds) I would gladly add it though.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:26 pm 
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you would have to add a passive to all characters that adds a dummy stat that you can use to display the FPA of each attack (depending on class ofc).
Only problem is, there is not way to differentiate between attack animations etc.
using the calc columns you have around 1000 characters to use in the formula for the dummy stat. Possible? yes. Simple? not really

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:28 pm 
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Well, nothing increases/decreases Faster Hit Recovery, it's only on gear/charms so it's ok to add it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:33 pm 
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That doesn't take care of the basic problem though even if you used a dummy stat... IAS from gear and IAS from a skill buff/curse while they might use the same item property code do not handle the same. The same goes for FRW, FCR, FHR, and FBR.

Since this plug in is unable to distinguish the type of sources for a given item stat this is where the chance for bug reports arise (since it could be displaying a positive increased speed yet your character is clearly moving as though they are in the negatives since the effective increased speed is actually in the negatives).

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Actually Steel wouldn't any enemy with slows target also slow FHR? The same would go for any enemy with high level holy freeze (which could be an aura enchanted enemy).


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That doesn't take care of the basic problem though even if you used a dummy stat... IAS from gear and IAS from a skill buff/curse while they might use the same item property code do not handle the same. The same goes for FRW, FCR, FHR, and FBR.

Since this plug in is unable to distinguish the type of sources for a given item stat this is where the chance for bug reports arise (since it could be displaying a positive increased speed yet your character is clearly moving as though they are in the negatives since the effective increased speed is actually in the negatives).


FHR and FBR use the same stats in skills.txt as they do in properties.txt and there is no skill based FCR in the game so it's fine to add those.

The dummy stat would be needed for IAS but it wouldn't be adding skill ias and item ias together. it would use the propper speed calculation formula in the calc column. You would need a way to update the passive every 5-10 frames though or hardcode an aura that controls the dummy stat to each player unit (calc used would have to vary based on player, so each player would need a seperate skill).

That still leaves the problem of diff attack animations varying by speed. The only way to deal with that is to make each of the attacks add a state to the player that would update the dummy stat calculation based on whatattack is used and the breakpoints for that attack.

Like I said, possible? yes. simple? no.

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Actually there is skill based FCR in the game. The slow curse the shamans start casting in NM and is also used by the liches in Castle of Destruction just before baal's minions.


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Actually Steel wouldn't any enemy with slows target also slow FHR? The same would go for any enemy with high level holy freeze (which could be an aura enchanted enemy).
No, if FHR was affected by those we'd be all doomed. Same is for faster block rate, nothing can lower this.
Holy Freeze/Slow/MonDecrep can only affect ias/fcr/frw. My favorite is hit by cold spell + mondec + using smite = 35fpa.
Mondecrep can prevent casting. Try cast oak or use BO with less than 50 fcr and that curse on:)


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ah yeh, i forgot about that curse. But still, showing the base speed you have is useful.

Ps. you can make a stat that is based on ias and skill ias using the OP column, then add the dummy stat to the Swing1,2,3 and Cast1,2,3 properties, then use those stats as the display stat.

Seems to work for IAS using fanaticism. Problem now is translating that to an FPA number for certain attack skills. Also, skills like fury have varying speeds (Ie. 4,3,3,3 frames attack on fury or 7,3,3,3,3,3,3 with dtalon).

Still, showing your cast rate, FHR and FBR while uncursed/debuffed is useful.

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Adding a dummy stat to properties won't work cleanly anyways (diminishing returns prevents this from working properly at all). The only way one could possibly have the an effective increased speed properly calculated was if there was some skill that could distinguish the skill increased speeds from the gear increased speeds (which is impossible for FCR due to mondecrep directly using the item FCR stat) and it would dynamically calculate the the true effective increased speed and generate a dummy stat with that value.

In any case Steel managed to convince me to add FBR and FHR. I won't be adding IAS, FCR, or FRW for the sake of avoiding a bunch of bug reports from d2 mechanic idiots. Opening post updated with the new plug in configuration.


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 Post subject: Re: HU Universal Custom Char Screen Plug In
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its easily added by the player anyway, i know there are quite a few out there with a full custom UI layed out how they want it.

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I use a diff one now anyway so i don't need the old one anymore
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Wow this custom stat screen looks amazing. I'm completely new to the mod and have only recently been playing. I am sure I am grossly just missing where to get a link to this and use it as my own (unless PureRage doesn't want to?) Anyone able to point me in the right direction? I see that you can do your own customizations etc. However wow, I can't even imagine doing much else to it as PureRage seems to have done everything I wish it did. Anyway I can nab it?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:34 am 
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Actually that stat screen you just quoted is particularly used in conjection with a high res plug in (it wouldn't fit on a normal HU install and high res is considered cheating here). So even if you did get your hands on that stat screen it would be unable to display properly.


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What is essence strength?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:53 pm 
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while you have an "Essence" equipped that has had whats called a "Binding" applied to it (one for each of the 6 damage types), every time you take damage within 4 secs of previously taking damage, you gain 1 Essence Strength (capped at 100). You can increase the max time between taking damage with items.

Your char gets bonuses depending on how much essence strength they currently have active.
The magic version adds:

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Fire/cold/light/pois/and phys ones all have similar stats like phys pierce, damage resist etc on the physical one. You can use a physical binding on a cold based essence to get +1 cold skills, pierce and blizzard proc (from the basic essence) + damage rsist, and phys pierce from the binding while your esence strength is active (handy for earth/water druid) or dual element sorcs.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:16 pm 
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Baerk wrote:
Actually that stat screen you just quoted is particularly used in conjection with a high res plug in (it wouldn't fit on a normal HU install and high res is considered cheating here). So even if you did get your hands on that stat screen it would be unable to display properly.


So its High res and therefore unusable. Fair enough. So I can however use the one labeled in the front of this thread? I just follow the directions and I should have the shown picture stats screen while not messing up access to the characters I've been playing currently? I'm I guess the Guinea pig for adding allowed modifications to the game.


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The one at the start of the topic is allowed.

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As long as you don't mess with the txt file and d2mod.ini of my download at the start of the thread it should be perfectly stable with a d2 shortcut set up to use a data folder.


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playing around with the text file won't cause crashes or anything, you are quite safe to play around with it/move the stats or even add your own choice of stats. See the tutorial for more info if you want to set your own one up.

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K, I might do so, While the original at the start of the thread certainly displays any and all much needed information I'll probably customize it for myself (as in the obvious name of this thread)

(Edited after I installed it)

I feel really dumb considering how easy that was. Thanks for making it easy on us all.


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Link is a 404 please fix when u get time , i fear whole new screen may be beyond my ability's yet but im learning

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The link should be up now. All I really did was use the plug in and tools that purerage initially provided in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4281

Of course if you want to use the stat screen I did as a base for modifications that's up to you. The plug in download I have in my first post is configured for normal res. I'm suspecting you want to modify it to make the respective display boxes bigger? Given how I left a good bit of whitespace there should be room to do that at least.


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hi guys i recently installed 1.21Z solo edition which is 800x600. is there anyway char stats screen that have been modified ? the purerage orange char screen is pretty bad ass but actualy a simple add of absord / mf / fhr / mdr/pdr and everything usefull will be very helpfull. so if you have anything that have been modified somewhere that i could install to change my original 1 i really want to try it out ... since im about -100% in modding i just cant even think about doing it my self

tyvm guys.

edit: oh and if any1 that have a 1024 version of 1.21z solo that i could download id really appreaciate it .. not to CHEEZE the game simply that it feel better for the eyes :D


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