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 Post subject: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:20 pm 
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I don't see Cobra Strike's significants. No one use this skill.
I have a great idea to revolutionizeing this skill.

Slows enemy over 1sec (every points icreases duration by 1sec)
1 Charge - Slows enemy by 1% (Max.20%)
2 Charge - Slows enemy by 2% (Max.40%)
3 Charge - Slows enemy by 3% (Max.60%) and slows enemy casting speed by 1% (Max.20%)

It's only an idea, please write your opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:53 pm 
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60% seems a bit too much but i like that idea!

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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:29 pm 

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60% may do something to trash but vs bosses its not alot, decrep and clay do47% and i can hardly notice


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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:31 pm 
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Striker wrote:
I don't see Cobra Strike's significants. No one use this skill.


You obviously have never made a good assassin. Cobra is an AWESOME 1 point wonder.

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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:22 am 
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i have tested in single player this skill and at lvl30 useless because assassin doesn't has high PHYSICAL dmg and therefore you can at endgame leech maximum 300-600 life, but often only 200-300.
But if you have enemy slow effect skill. You have lower chance to hit by boss and this spell is more useable like now.


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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:02 am 
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But you don't leech off undead and physical immunes anyways do you? Can someone confim what can you and can't you leech off of.

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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:28 am 
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Rasta wrote:
But you don't leech off undead and physical immunes anyways do you? Can someone confim what can you and can't you leech off of.


Nothing undead.
Nothing with a high drain effectiveness.
Essentially every boss in Hell.

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Total Leech = Total Physical Damage * (Leech%) * (Penalty) * (Drain Effectiveness)

The formula is the same for both life leech and mana leech. Penalty is 50% in Nightmare and 33% in Hell. Drain Effectiveness is a monster-specific stat that affects how much you can drain from them (think of it like leech resistance). For instance, Skeletons have a Drain Effectiveness of 0, which means they cannot be leeched from, no matter what.

As an example... if you're dealing 800 damage in Hell against a monster with no drain resistance, and you have 12% Life and 5% mana leech, you will leech:
800 * (.12) * (.33) * (1) = ~32 life and
800 * (.05) * (.33) * (1) = ~13 mana.


Penalties may be higher here, dunno.

Life leech is one of the things that is broken with melee in my opinion and something I would recommend fixing as it has a big impact on how melee play and what keeps them fun.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:20 pm 
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I've learned to deal with barely leeching in melee. It's not an issue if you use strategy and tactics

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:24 pm 
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Rasta wrote:
I've learned to deal with barely leeching in melee. It's not an issue if you use strategy and tactics


sitting in town is a strategy?

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 Post subject: Re: Cobra Strike replacing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:11 am 
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PureRage-DoD wrote:
sitting in town is a strategy?


Correction:
sitting in town is a strategy.

it's just cheesier than a 6 pool.
oh wrong game.

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