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What should be the best items in game?
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Author:  grincho [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  What should be the best items in game?
I don't know how it is right now in this mod, since I started recently but it looks like runewords and uniques are still the kings of the hill. Personally, I'd like to see rares as the best possible items in game, if they could have the same mods uniques and RWs do (like OSKILLS), even with low chances of happening it would add a lot more variability to the game. What do you guys think?
Author:  blue_myriddn [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
it varies.

for weapons, I think that rares have everything beat with their ability to be eth and quad socketted.

Take an item like this:
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Now that is kicking damage already, but you can add %ED jewels and/or IAS jewels to make it even stronger.

You have a similar situation with eth Beserker axes.

Rare armor on the other hand tends to not hit the same standards though despite also being able to be quad socketted. Probably because defense alone doesn't make the strongest armor.

As for rings/amulets - rares seem to take second place only to crafts, although uniques are right up there too. If you look through this thread though: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=968 you can see that crafted rings/amulets really kick some serious butt.
Author:  grincho [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
Make a "Desire" on an eth bow and you can have a similar dmg with more IAS +skills and the ability to convert which could grant you with auras and curses provided by monsters.
Author:  blue_myriddn [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
desire will only get you 550% ED at best.

With the eth rare you can get 4 x 60% ED jewels in there to bring you up to about 750% ED. Pretty big difference. The +skills won't matter if you aren't a zon using this brute, mostly because zons would roll an eth Grand Matron Bow rather than an xbow. Mercs tend to use xbows.
Author:  PureRage-DoD [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
eth rare weapons are used alot, as are uniques, sets and crafts, depending on your needs. eg. A frost bite/fire claw druid will use gris' caddy (set) or a high ias death craft for the sheer speed. Uniques and runewords and rares wont be used as often by these builds.
Zons (bow) will generaly use runewords and uniques early/mid game then an eth rare GMB late game.
Barbs will use rares pretty much any type of item throughout the game, eth rares being favoured late game for sheer damage.
Runewords are used more often on mercs to provide auras or ctc skills.

the spread of item type usage is pretty good so most types of item are usefull at all points in the game, depending on the needs of the user. Alot of items are less useful and wont be used much but there is such a wide spectrum of items to choose from, all types get used
Author:  blinky99 [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
what are the speed IAS breakpoints for a an Act1mrec using eth CC?
Author:  grincho [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
blinky99 wrote:
what are the speed IAS breakpoints for a an Act1mrec using eth CC?

Posting it in the wrong place after doing it in the right one won't get you answers faster.
Author:  FuryCury [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
All in all, I think the item spread here is MUCH better than bnet. some use runewords endgame, some eth rares, some uniques. On bnet it was all the same. At least there's some diversity.
Author:  muleofal [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
FuryCury wrote:
All in all, I think the item spread here is MUCH better than bnet. some use runewords endgame, some eth rares, some uniques. On bnet it was all the same. At least there's some diversity.


definitely true. lots of different choices for weapons, where different crafts, rares, even some uniques or RWs can possibly work. jewelry is also pretty spread out. some of the other gear is kinda repetitive for the same type of role players (melees tend to use certain boots/belts most of the time etc.), but even some sets get good love too.

bnet was shit. enigma on most things, if not it was fort or coh usually, or the occasional eth unique for melee duelers. weapons were all hoto or eschutas/fathom for casters, botd/death cleaver for almost all melees. 95% of the items became useless. part of that problem though was duping, or else you wouldnt see more than 10-20 enigmas on the realm. the way it is, however, is that each person has 10-20 enigmas, and thats not how blizzard envisioned the game when coding it :/
Author:  PureRage-DoD [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What should be the best items in game?
Blizzard have all there staff on smack IMO. such a great game engine and they made such a mess of it over the last 10 years.
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