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 Post subject: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:38 am 
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So i started a nekromancer.

I want to build bone spear teeth, but dunno about rest of skills.

what shoud I build him to be able to handle end game hell?


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:14 am 

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Bone necros were one of the strongest classes a few patches back. As to if they function enough now, I'm not sure, but since the damage has been revamped to what it was I would imagine they work. The strength of them is their damage is high enough to kill almost any boss, their summons provide powerful tanks for most trash, and most importantly almost nothing in the game is magic immune so your pierce will function appropriately.


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:51 am 
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Angel wtf are you talking about, did you copy and paste that from a wiki or some shit?

Bone Necros are fine against trash... mediocre against bosses. You won't really have summons, but a simple act 2 or 5 merc will be plenty to tank trash.

And there is a LOT in the game that is magic immune, but there's a curse for that. Enjoy, its not over powered, its not under powered. It's the goldie locks of classes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:42 am 

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lmao at the 'did you copy and paste that from wikipedia' :D

I used to play bone necro alot. With max golem mastery, and 1 point in each golem, they used to tank pretty well, but would die quite fast against bosses.

Rolled when again this patch, so we'll see!

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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:29 pm 

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Considering I'm the reason bone necros got toned back, I think I know a fair deal about them.


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:55 pm 
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Of course you were buddy.... I mean it's not like back when hammer had his server split or anything I wasn't known as the necro guy ;) but its okay young lad.. you keep thinking that.

TIL angel is the best player.

oh and an edit.. are u at least to NM yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:13 am 

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Carried your buddy to a5 hell in <5 hours.

Here you go, last patch bone necros were strong:
http://blue.arimyth.com/images/99-bonenecro-angel.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:25 pm 

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my nekro had 160 pierce. weak ass 118


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:37 pm 

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That's cool, that was literally the most pierce you could possibly slot though, so cool lies.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:58 pm 
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25 wand
24 helm
30 armor
23 shield
20 rings
10 ammy
10 gloves

152 unless forgot something

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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:51 pm 

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Mrawskrad wrote:
25 wand
24 helm
30 armor
23 shield
20 rings
10 ammy
10 gloves

152 unless forgot something


Sanctuary used to get magic pierce.
Also I think a shield can get magic pierce and 4x facets (it used to at least). Now I'm not so sure.
I think Zakarum amulet gets pierce.

In any case 118 is not nearly the maximum.


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:52 am 

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Gloves didn't exist. - Hellmouth gave 5% ele damage.
Shield was less. - You could craft a +% damage shield that didn't function at all, though.
Helm was less.
Facets were -5.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:53 am 

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Angel wrote:
Gloves didn't exist. - Hellmouth gave 5% ele damage.
Shield was less. - You could craft a +% damage shield that didn't function at all, though. - shields were -16 magic pierce on crafts before the 4 sockets, so they were able to get to almost -40 alone. They also weren't terribly difficult to get +2 necro with +teeth/spear/spirit.
Helm was less.
Facets were -5. - sur runes were -6 magic pierce and easier to find than facets


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:37 am 

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Not running facets was utterly retarded since they were free fully synergized teeth casts, and you're getting smacked so often it procs all the time. But hey, -7 extra pierce or literally tripling the rate which teeth are spammed?

Sur in shields gave damage not pierce.

Fairly certain shields were only damage, but even if they were, the chances of getting 2 nec(or 3 pnb) and +3 teeth +3 spear OR spirit was slim to none. Nor was it superior in anyway to +5 nec skills, as curses were key to this patch.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:02 pm 

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If "you're getting smacked so often it procs all the time" then you are playing a teeth necro completely wrong. Get lost. Teeth should be clearing everything before it gets close to you with how far its range extends, its good aoe damage, the availability of pierce and the lack of immunes.

I never said sur runes in shield, those slots are for facets if you want pure damage. But old shields did in facet get magic pierce along with magic mastery (which did not work). And yes, the chances were in fact a lot higher than you think to getting 4 or 5 to teeth/spear. Pretty easy to roll a very good shield.

To quote myself:
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In any case 118 is not nearly the maximum.


It's funny to watch you defend yourself after you were clearly proven wrong time and time again.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:04 pm 

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If you're not getting smacked so often it procs all the time you're clearing at 1/4th the speed of me.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:27 pm 

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Let me think here how it went down, im a bit tired from all the threesomes i was having last night while angel was running around jerking off to his nekros but that pierce was no lie

Armor temps -8 with 4x -6 = -32
Zak ammy -10
2x wisp = -20
Griffons -6 with 3x -6 = -24
Hellmouth -10
Shield -16 was +2 nec +3 pnb with -20 = 36
Bonesgade -25

157. Hmmm i guess im missing 3 pierce, oh well, youre still literally wrong. And donr call me liar. Get your weakass 118 our of here. Lol literally couldnt socket anymore. Your noobie brain couldnt figure it out :(


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:38 pm 
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muleofal wrote:
Sanctuary used to get magic pierce.


Just passing by to say it still gives 10% magic pierce eventhough the description of the skill doesn't say so.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:34 pm 

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I would probably round up 157 to 160 anyways just for the sake of conversation


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:35 pm 

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You must legitimately have brain damage if you think hellmouth existed back then.

Shields also can't spawn +2 nec, +3 pnb.


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 Post subject: Re: Nekro for hell
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:52 am 

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2 patches ago? When baal wise immune to everything but magic? Definitely hellmouf
Honestly i dont care.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:15 am 

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Regardless 147>118 so wtfs the difference youre still wrong. Unless you have some genius mathematical equation that proves me wrong best shut it


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:45 pm 

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lol you don't even know the patch


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:52 pm 

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Angel wrote:
Bone necros were one of the strongest classes a few patches back.


you must have legitimate brain damage you didnt even say which patch it was you dumbass
and my nekro was made a few patches back
lol YOU dont even know the patch


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:57 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:20 pm 

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I didn't say which patch because it was irrelevant. Whether or not bone necros in the past were strong doesn't have any bearing on if they are strong this patch.

They aren't. Blood magic will make them incapable of clearing anything useful and the ranged counters will make them unable to even damage bosses.

But hey, continue to sit there and talk mad shit when you're using items that didn't exist in the patch I posted to artificially inflate your stats.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:14 pm 

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Angel wrote:
I didn't say which patch because it was irrelevant.


Angel wrote:
But hey, continue to sit there and talk mad shit when you're using items that didn't exist in the patch I posted to artificially inflate your stats.


contradicting yourself


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:17 pm 

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I didn't say the patch but clearly the screenshot is from a specific patch where hellmouth didn't exist. Thus soul drainers? Thus the shards being small scs and overlapping? Use your brain.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:42 pm 

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Angel wrote:
I didn't say the patch but clearly the screenshot is from a specific patch where hellmouth didn't exist. Thus soul drainers? Thus the shards being small scs and overlapping? Use your brain.


lol!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:56 am 
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Angel you're bad. Go home you're drunk.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:06 pm 

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GJ 22 on the ladder hunter.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:24 pm 
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Is that all? Lol figured id give you some time to catch up while i went on vacation. You still have a few more days while i enjoy pompano beach.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:07 pm 

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I can carry you ezpz bruh


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:24 am 

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Angel wrote:
I can carry you ezpz bruh

are you even in a5 yet
better question are you even in hell yet?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:34 am 

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Yes.


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