I hope that shit works out for you, very interesting way you building your pala I must say.
I dont understand why ppl think its better to go zeal then vengence in these builds, I mean if you're zeal then you'll hit too fast to be able to do damage to any boss because of the amount of counters you will cause.

Thats it, making one of these myself, got a holy shockadin at lvl 58 with vengence but your build seems a lot more interesting.
Please write here when you got dream/dragon/doom going on your char, want to know how it works. I hope its awesome.

Doesnt the equip auras get damage boosts from the actuall talents aswell?

But that exists, i wanted to use vengeance.
All the holy auras are synergies to vengeance, and Conv is the best one to use. the Dream Dragon Doom combo makes up for nice and shiny effects both on his feet and on his enemies face. I know its not optimal, tho. Im enjoying it so far.

THats the whole point of it! Lets say i have 20 hardpoints in holy fire and +10 extra points tru +skills. Equipping dragon (12 when equipped) ill always have a level 42 Holy Fire aura up, not only melting enemies (wiht its outstanding probable 500 damge at level 42) but also adding a crapton of fire damage (Sinergies from Conv and vengeance itself will add on the on equip aura as well) to my vengeance.
Also, he needs quite a lot of physical damage, since vengeance modifies your physical damage.

Using an aura on equip will never add the level of the on equip aura to your actual skill level. It's never worked like that. It will run the aura on equip level (or if you run your own aura too, the higher level one will win)

veng damage comes from a high damage weapon, the 3 holy auras won't add much to your damage without pumping the 20% synergys for those auras. With all 3 and each 20% snergy maxed you should get some ok combined damage from the auras on equip, but not crazy high numbers by any means.

80% of skills damage comes from tier 4 and 5 damages.
Ie. 1 point going from level 51 to 52 will add about as much damage as 10 points going from 1 to 10. Stacking many low level auras won't put out as much damage as you may think.

as far as trashing goes, just use your own holy fire aura and use a kuko bow with a ruby in it + razortail belt. 100% piercing arrows and high fire damage clears extremely fast.

If you are running a maxed convic, just get an act 3 merc and you wont have to attack vs trash at all really.

To get the most outa those auras on equip, I would build a melee sorc with all 3 masterys maxed + the rest in enchant and frozen armor (for def and AR%) then zeal with that. It still woudn't be spectacular though.

The build on B.net used aura stacking (which was a bug) the other one was using Dream in shields and a helm giving you a level 30 Holy Shock. and Dragon/HoJ for a Level 30 Holy fire because the aura levels would combine on B.net.

I still think vengence will be pretty good this way. You'll get something like 6-700%, or more elemental damage from vengence, and with the maxed conviction you'll probably do a crap load of damage.

I still think vengence will be pretty good this way. You'll get something like 6-700%, or more elemental damage from vengence, and with the maxed conviction you'll probably do a crap load of damage.

same damage as zeal, im telling you


really, 1/5 the damage of zeal if all 5 hit.

okey but this way you'll be able to hit the boss without causing a million counters(I'm exaggerating)...

Also even if 95% of the game is trash, the most fun part at least for me is usually the bosses. So standing around doing nothing isnt really that fun(wich is ironic since most my chars are barbs), but when you have a clear choice between not doing lots of counters and only doing a moderate amount of counters then the choice should be clear(by that I mean if you choose zeal you cant hit the boss and with vengence you can). Unless you dont really care about the bosses ofc, or have a team that can kill them for you or something.

I understand if you wana go zeal instead of vengence though...

That being said, I support Vengeance, because no one ever makes them haha

Indeed, the only thing with counters a melee should be wary of is baal's icon. (super high ctc blizz and posibility to stack 8-10 in a single patch). Thats how my melee zon died. Besides that, I was able to comfortably jab all other countering enemys and leech through any counter or negate them completely with a little MDR