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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:52 pm 

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is max psn length reduce 100%? possible?

better to go with diamonds in gear or saphires? curently using tals set with 3 diamonds in helm and crap in armor
i have lvl 1 ES and 20 tk so far to vit and 230 energy and 200 stats unused
already at 79% with gear


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:10 pm 

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If your life pool is sufficient to support your ES % with your current mana, diamonds aren't really too necessary.

iirc, 100% PLR is possible, but it won't remove poisons all-together. It will first negate hell's +100% penalty, and then further reduction will reduce the time.

I always carry a slot or two of antidotes either way.


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:25 pm 
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There's a hard cap of 75%PLR.


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:00 pm 

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other question was is block worth it two uber amyes in HHG and maybe one/two uber emerald in templars or such


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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:12 pm 
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I would think sapphires in gear since if your mana shield doesn't go down you barely take any dmg anyways?

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:24 am 

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so would i have to get 175 length reduction to over come the hell penalty and then get the cap? Does poison resists matter at all when Es is on?


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 2:31 pm 
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pois res is super important as poison bypassed ES completely.

and yeh, 175 PLR is what you want to shoot for.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:15 pm 

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Have to wear andys imor flesh and 2 starstones in HHG worth it?

also im at 300 energy tal set and about 4 k mana with lvl 5 bo so far no spahires in armor or helm, 1 xsojs though +11 energy and around 22% increase each and no caster boots yet.

Get absolutely owned by psn even with a slot of antidotes think using sob from wisp would be better than all that psn gear?

100 stat pts left and lvl 87


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:30 pm 
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or, what sort of life regen would you need to nullify the poison dmg? >< I know there's some super powerful poison though

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:43 pm 

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a lot some of it gets me down in a few seconds from 1.5k life youd have to use kiras with like 4 uber skulls and some other gear and run prayer all the time lol

i seem to be able to stand in a pack of meele monsters for a while, but casters slay me a lot easier


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:11 pm 

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Casters act as though you have zero re, which is why they kill you quicker.

You'll never be able to negate poison damage through regen.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:49 pm 
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I know, I was half joking :P, although it certainly would help counter-act a bit of the dmg.

I'm looking at 75% poison res with 150-175% PLR (current gear set up lands me at 155), 2 +1 sorc prayer rings, an insight merc with prayer rings, etc.

It's easy to get a huge mana pool and tank well (w/ maxed TK) if it weren't for Mana Burn mobs, so this is my main concern as an ES sorc on HC. I'm trying to find a balance where I will have a good life pool as well as mana, so even if I get Burnt I will still be able to take a few hits and run away or whatever. The problem here is that when considering taking dmg to my life bubble, now I need to also consider getting some DR/MDR, where as a pure ES build can ignore that. Luckily, Warmth gets 25 MDR at lvl 50, and Frozen Armor comes equipped with MDR & PDR- 25@lvl50 (based on the values Shantu put together in the excel sheet).

So now I'm in a situation where I want to put Rubies, Sapphires, AND Diamonds in my gear, and sockets are limited since I'll likely need to wear Andarials Visage for the 75% PLR.

I'm thinking of stat distribution like: 50 str/dex, 50 energy, the rest in vit. This should allow me enough str to use some decent gear, and will help my health pool to end up around 2-3k(with gear). Through having some pieces like caster boots, etc, getting a big mana pool shouldn't be too difficult.. What do you guys think?

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:34 pm 

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I don't know about that, there are poisons in the game that last like 10+ minutes(literally) that drop me from 12k health to 1 in like 4 seconds, and not even ultras+2x prayers from belts help.

Just craft helms/boots for the PLR.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:55 pm 

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andys visage has 75 plr, or imrtoal flesh 50, or wisp has sob charges 50 or so plr as well


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:06 pm 
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I was thinking Andy's Visage, Immortal Flesh, Rising Sun (20-30PLR), and something else I don't know yet

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:33 pm 

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hhg with 2 uber emeralds and have 175 plr i think


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