they can hit pretty much the same damage as light nova, heres a screenshot of mine from last season. She had room for 3 more skillers iirc and was using defensive equip. With all out offense equip she would be well over 40k top end
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| Author: | saypawn [ Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Frost Nova.... Really? |
Okay so while ago i made a Fnova sorc that reached lvl 70. since then i stopped playing with her. I just started playing with her again and heard in the end, with the right gear, can hit up to 30k-40k. I can't see it. can someone tell me the gear to reach such a pinnacle? i can see maybe 20k and a good amount of -res with decent gear, but 30-40k? Thanks guys. |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
they can hit pretty much the same damage as light nova, heres a screenshot of mine from last season. She had room for 3 more skillers iirc and was using defensive equip. With all out offense equip she would be well over 40k top end
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| Author: | saypawn [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
very nice dmg, but whats iirc? What was the endgame gear for your nova? |
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| Author: | Rat. [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:56 am ] |
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iirc = if i recall correctly |
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| Author: | LmT [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
You don't have nova on left click? |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
no, i dont like nova spells on left click. The only sorc skill i use on left click is meteor |
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| Author: | saypawn [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
anyone? gear help? |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
the gear i was using in that screenie was disciple set with lidless and fathom. I liked the buff to life etc it gave and it provided a nice cussion against hits for solo farming (hell tundra in 2-3 mins solo with 15k static). If I was going all out offense to play with some tanks etc I would use the tried and tested caster equip, griffs/3light 20fcr, res life mana circlet. hellmouths, silkweaves, tgods (snowclash in cold sorcs case), templars, fathom, and lidless. 3 light skills caster craft amu, 2 sorc rings with fcr and other nice mods. (blood craft preferably). facets in all open sockets (thunder prisms in fathom). and you are good to go. |
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| Author: | Sesshomaru [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:36 pm ] | ||
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this is with only 5 skillers and a anni.last ladder i was 42k on max with my fnova sorc
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| Author: | saypawn [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
lol it says 24k lmao. i mean thats stil lalot, but not quite 42k lololo |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
his sorc last season was at 42k, that is his sorc this season with less skill charms |
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| Author: | saypawn [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
I see, so cold skillers add about 2-3k per skiller? hmm makes sense since it also adds to cold mastery... Thnx for the explanation. |
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| Author: | oZio [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
That a2 merc have the -20 enemy cold resist aura sess??? if so howd you get that? |
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| Author: | Utter [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
oZio wrote: That a2 merc have the -20 enemy cold resist aura sess??? if so howd you get that? Doom or Ice. |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
Holy Freeze stacks with conviction? |
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| Author: | x3n0x1d3 [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
patrick_pkl wrote: Holy Freeze stacks with conviction? yes |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
Taken from Blue's website: They are very popular choices for summoners and also for elemental characters as they all have Holy auras that reduce enemy resists by 20% (note, this does NOT stack with conviction - conviction will simply override the merc's aura So merc's holy auras are coded differently from paladin's holy auras?? What is the -resists on lvl 3 and lvl 6 conviction aura? Does paladin's holy auras stack with merc's holy auras? say my a3 light merc wore a dream helm, would tat stack? |
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| Author: | blue_myriddn [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
I believe soulmancer changed it and I haven't updated the website to reflect it. We tested it out in this thread though and I was surprised to see it work: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=574&p=5304 updating blue.arimyth.com now |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
Hmmm so do they stack with Paladin's holy auras? Anybody knows? I'm deciding between these 2 combos. Thirst for knowledge (lvl 6 conviction) + A3 merc (merc aura) + dream/dragon rw (Holy aura) Fathom shard (-25% resists) + A2 merc infinity (lvl 3 conviction) + dream/dragon rw (holy aura) I've trying to figure out the calculations as to which one reduces more resistances overall. |
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| Author: | blue_myriddn [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
best bet is to test it out in PvP. just hostile a player and let him see if his resists are lowered by the different combos. |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
i play single player =D haha. so i can't do testing. ah well. Could somebody test? How the 3 auras work together? Merc aura + Dream/Hoj Aura + conviction? Do any of them cancel each other out? Could somebody give me the figures for -resists for lvl 3 conviction and lvl 6 conviction? I don't have a paladin to test. lol. Seeing which combination gives the most -resists. Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 101% TFK (lvl 6 conviction) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 40% + lvl 6 conviction Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + infinity (lvl 3 conviction) + dream/hoj (20%) = 81% + lvl 3 conviction |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
fathom, gives the most pierce against broken immunes as passive pierce is put into full effect vs broken immunes. Auras that can break immunes are ALL working at 1/5 strength. |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
Then is level 6 conviction any more effective at breaking immunes than level 3? Barely a difference? its -15% resist more so -15/5 = -3% resists? |
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| Author: | oZio [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
God damnit so I didn't need the a3 merc for the -20 resists????!?!? |
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| Author: | x3n0x1d3 [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
Blue's skill charts list level 3 Conviction as -41% and level 6 as -55% patrick_pkl wrote: Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 101% This would actually be only -81% and -20%(not including the -55% from Conviction) respectively, because you can only factor in just 1 of the holy auras for any of the given elements.
TFK (lvl 6 conviction) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 40% + lvl 6 conviction |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
So merc aura and holy auras don't stack? Ok. |
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| Author: | blue_myriddn [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
patrick_pkl wrote: So merc aura and holy auras don't stack? Ok. One is a skill aura (merc) and one is an item aura, so they should compete rather than stack. |
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| Author: | x3n0x1d3 [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
They will all work, yes... My point was that if you are a sorceress, you will only be doing 1 form of elemental damage at one time, therefor only 1 holy aura will help you with any given attack. While you can only get -20% from an attack consisting of one element, it will work the same with the other holy auras that your merc has on. Of course, this is regarding your idea of having Holy Freeze, Holy Shock, and Holy Fire on all at the same time. |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
No my idea is to use like a A3 light merc wearing a dream helmet. And see if the -20% from merc aura and -20% from dream helmet stack.. |
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| Author: | blue_myriddn [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
patrick_pkl wrote: No my idea is to use like a A3 light merc wearing a dream helmet. And see if the -20% from merc aura and -20% from dream helmet stack.. I'd be curious to see if that works or not. In theory, it shouldn't but I was surprised that conviction and a holy aura stacked, so it is hard to say. |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
no they wont stack, one is an active aura and one is an on equip aura. The highest level one will win, The only way they would stack is if the mercs aura was another skill. Ie. if the mercs aura was called "Merc shock aura" and had its own line in skills.txt and holy shock had a seperate line then they would tack. They dont though so the highest source of holy shock will win. (if you have around +5-6 skills on your merc then his own aura will be higher. at level 99 I think they have level 16 skills iirc (before + skills items) |
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| Author: | Zikur [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
mercs, atleast the A2 mercs had 'merc freeze' so its very possible they have a new skill for their auras |
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| Author: | PureRage-DoD [ Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
nah they were changed to the holy auras to grant the -20 enemy res since it wouldnt work on the merc freeze for some reason. |
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| Author: | saypawn [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
hmm... so what merc should i get for my cold sorc? whats the BEST -res solution? |
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| Author: | patrick_pkl [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Frost Nova.... Really? |
A2 merc with infinity. |
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