Frost Nova.... Really?

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

Okay so while ago i made a Fnova sorc that reached lvl 70. since then i stopped playing with her. I just started playing with her again and heard in the end, with the right gear, can hit up to 30k-40k. I can't see it.

can someone tell me the gear to reach such a pinnacle?

i can see maybe 20k and a good amount of -res with decent gear, but 30-40k?

Thanks guys.

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

they can hit pretty much the same damage as light nova, heres a screenshot of mine from last season. She had room for 3 more skillers iirc and was using defensive equip. With all out offense equip she would be well over 40k top end

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

very nice dmg, but whats iirc?

What was the endgame gear for your nova?

Rat. · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:10 am **Posts:** 12

iirc = if i recall correctly

LmT · **Posted:** Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:11 am

You don't have nova on left click?

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

no, i dont like nova spells on left click. The only sorc skill i use on left click is meteor

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

anyone? gear help?

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

the gear i was using in that screenie was disciple set with lidless and fathom.
I liked the buff to life etc it gave and it provided a nice cussion against hits for solo farming (hell tundra in 2-3 mins solo with 15k static).

If I was going all out offense to play with some tanks etc I would use the tried and tested caster equip, griffs/3light 20fcr, res life mana circlet. hellmouths, silkweaves, tgods (snowclash in cold sorcs case), templars, fathom, and lidless. 3 light skills caster craft amu, 2 sorc rings with fcr and other nice mods. (blood craft preferably). facets in all open sockets (thunder prisms in fathom). and you are good to go.

Sesshomaru · **Posted:** Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:36 pm

this is with only 5 skillers and a anni.last ladder i was 42k on max with my fnova sorc

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

lol it says 24k lmao. i mean thats stil lalot, but not quite 42k lololo

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

his sorc last season was at 42k, that is his sorc this season with less skill charms

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

I see, so cold skillers add about 2-3k per skiller? hmm makes sense since it also adds to cold mastery... Thnx for the explanation.

oZio · **Joined:** Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:34 am **Posts:** 386

That a2 merc have the -20 enemy cold resist aura sess??? if so howd you get that?

Utter · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:05 am **Posts:** 422

oZio wrote:

That a2 merc have the -20 enemy cold resist aura sess??? if so howd you get that?

Doom or Ice.

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

Holy Freeze stacks with conviction?

x3n0x1d3 · **Joined:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:09 pm **Posts:** 86

patrick_pkl wrote:

Holy Freeze stacks with conviction?

yes

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

Taken from Blue's website: They are very popular choices for summoners and also for elemental characters as they all have Holy auras that reduce enemy resists by 20% (note, this does NOT stack with conviction - conviction will simply override the merc's aura

So merc's holy auras are coded differently from paladin's holy auras??

What is the -resists on lvl 3 and lvl 6 conviction aura?

Does paladin's holy auras stack with merc's holy auras? say my a3 light merc wore a dream helm, would tat stack?

blue_myriddn · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:48 am **Posts:** 2432

I believe soulmancer changed it and I haven't updated the website to reflect it. We tested it out in this thread though and I was surprised to see it work:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=574&p=5304

updating blue.arimyth.com now

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

Hmmm so do they stack with Paladin's holy auras? Anybody knows?

I'm deciding between these 2 combos.

Thirst for knowledge (lvl 6 conviction) + A3 merc (merc aura) + dream/dragon rw (Holy aura)

Fathom shard (-25% resists) + A2 merc infinity (lvl 3 conviction) + dream/dragon rw (holy aura)

I've trying to figure out the calculations as to which one reduces more resistances overall.

blue_myriddn · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:48 am **Posts:** 2432

best bet is to test it out in PvP. just hostile a player and let him see if his resists are lowered by the different combos.

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

i play single player =D haha. so i can't do testing. ah well.

Could somebody test? How the 3 auras work together?

Merc aura + Dream/Hoj Aura + conviction? Do any of them cancel each other out?

Could somebody give me the figures for -resists for lvl 3 conviction and lvl 6 conviction? I don't have a paladin to test. lol.

Seeing which combination gives the most -resists.

Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 101%
TFK (lvl 6 conviction) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 40% + lvl 6 conviction
Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + infinity (lvl 3 conviction) + dream/hoj (20%) = 81% + lvl 3 conviction

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

fathom, gives the most pierce against broken immunes as passive pierce is put into full effect vs broken immunes. Auras that can break immunes are ALL working at 1/5 strength.

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

Then is level 6 conviction any more effective at breaking immunes than level 3? Barely a difference? its -15% resist more so -15/5 = -3% resists?

oZio · **Joined:** Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:34 am **Posts:** 386

God damnit so I didn't need the a3 merc for the -20 resists????!?!?

x3n0x1d3 · **Joined:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:09 pm **Posts:** 86

Blue's skill charts list level 3 Conviction as -41% and level 6 as -55%

patrick_pkl wrote:

Fathom shard (25% + 3x12% = 61%) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 101%
TFK (lvl 6 conviction) + merc aura (20%) + dream/hoj (20%) = 40% + lvl 6 conviction

This would actually be only -81% and -20%(not including the -55% from Conviction) respectively, because you can only factor in just 1 of the holy auras for any of the given elements.

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

So merc aura and holy auras don't stack? Ok.

blue_myriddn · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:48 am **Posts:** 2432

patrick_pkl wrote:

So merc aura and holy auras don't stack? Ok.

One is a skill aura (merc) and one is an item aura, so they should compete rather than stack.

x3n0x1d3 · **Joined:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:09 pm **Posts:** 86

They will all work, yes... My point was that if you are a sorceress, you will only be doing 1 form of elemental damage at one time, therefor only 1 holy aura will help you with any given attack. While you can only get -20% from an attack consisting of one element, it will work the same with the other holy auras that your merc has on. Of course, this is regarding your idea of having Holy Freeze, Holy Shock, and Holy Fire on all at the same time.

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

No my idea is to use like a A3 light merc wearing a dream helmet. And see if the -20% from merc aura and -20% from dream helmet stack..

blue_myriddn · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:48 am **Posts:** 2432

patrick_pkl wrote:

No my idea is to use like a A3 light merc wearing a dream helmet. And see if the -20% from merc aura and -20% from dream helmet stack..

I'd be curious to see if that works or not. In theory, it shouldn't but I was surprised that conviction and a holy aura stacked, so it is hard to say.

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

no they wont stack, one is an active aura and one is an on equip aura.
The highest level one will win, The only way they would stack is if the mercs aura was another skill. Ie. if the mercs aura was called "Merc shock aura" and had its own line in skills.txt and holy shock had a seperate line then they would tack. They dont though so the highest source of holy shock will win. (if you have around +5-6 skills on your merc then his own aura will be higher. at level 99 I think they have level 16 skills iirc (before + skills items)

Zikur · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:11 am **Posts:** 978

mercs, atleast the A2 mercs had 'merc freeze' so its very possible they have a new skill for their auras

PureRage-DoD · **Joined:** Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 am **Posts:** 4291

nah they were changed to the holy auras to grant the -20 enemy res since it wouldnt work on the merc freeze for some reason.

saypawn · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:39 am **Posts:** 61

hmm... so what merc should i get for my cold sorc? whats the BEST -res solution?

patrick_pkl · **Joined:** Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:53 am **Posts:** 126

A2 merc with infinity.

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